believe he has the spine for this. i want to help him. i can't help him unless he changes his policies. everything he's done has bred more aggression. mr. president, you have to up your game before it's too late. >> martha: thanks, senator graham. good to have you with us. that's "the story" for this wednesday, november 1. the story goes on. this is a very important story that we are all covering and watching right now in terms of the future and what it holds. we will see you back here tomorrow at 3:00. have a good evening. "your world" starts right now. >> we're in a harsh war.

it will be a long war. >> because of this war from the israeli point of view, of course, is to eliminate the hamas structure and hamas as an organization. >> here hoping to live. we have a little hope to live and save our lives. >> neil: nonstop. as israel's war with hamas rage on. a meeting with secretary of state antony blinken and saudi defense minister bin salman help avoid a wider conflict? we'll ask chairman mike mccaul. "your world" starts right now.

welcome. i'm neil cavuto. glad to have you. let's go to lucas tomlinson. his in israel with the latest on the israeli military pounding targets as we speak. lucas? >> neil, there's three israeli divisions attacking from three different directions with the goal of cutting after gaza city from the rest of the strip and cutting gaza in half. israel's defense minister speaking to his forces not far from where i'm standing with a simple message. destroy hamas. >> we are not going to stop until we eliminate all of them, all levels of command and lower. the enemy has two options, to die or to give up, surrender without any conditions. >> israeli forces have been inside gaza since friday night and turning up the volume as

they approach the gaetz of gaza city. the advances have not come without a cost. 16 of the idf soldiers have been killed since the gaza operations started. 11 yesterday alone. israeli mechanized forces including tanks, bulldozer and mine clearing vehicles have been in action. they have destroyed 11 targets and won't stop until hamas is completely annihilated. israel is not only launching air strikes but the west bank, lebanon and syria, too. after a ballistic missile was launched, israel has deployed a warship to the red sea for additional air defense. these israeli corvettes are made in mississippi, neil. after weeks under siege, the first palestinian civilians, hundreds and americans living in gaza were allowed to leave through the rafah crossing in to egypt. as we've been outside here, neil, we've seen hundreds of

israeli forces, reinforcements heading in to gaza, which is down this road, route 25. we heard constant artillery barrages from israel striking targets in gaza. we've heard israeli f-15s and apache gunships waiting for tasking, neil. >> neil: thanks, lucas. please be safe. in the middle of all that. to peter doocy now in washington at the white how specifically. an tony blinken is meeting with saudi arabia's defense minister. how is that working out? >> even though saudi arabia has been calling for a cease fire and they have been critical of israel, they want to make a deal to normalize relations with israel. >> i still believe an integrated israel is good for the region. we still believe that that is a path worth pursuing and we're not giving up on that. we're still interested in pursuing this normalization

arrangement with israel and saudi arabia. as i said, the saudi arabiians want to continue in that regard. >> the red carpet has been rolled out and will be received by the secretary of state, blinken, who is about to fly himself to israel to sit with benjamin netanyahu. >> he will reiterate u.s. support for israel's right to defend itself in accordance with humanitarian law and discuss the need to take all precautions to minimize civilian casualties. >> vice president harris is in the u.k. reiterating the loss of innocent life must be minimized. president biden's only comment about this so far today has been a tweet. he is sticking to bidenomics in minnesota. neil? >> neil: thanks, peter doocy at the white house.

we expect to hear more from the president and what he makes of this safe corridor that's been set up in the rafah region a little later this hour. we'll take you to that when he does start addressing it. mike mccaul back with us, the house foreign affairs committee chair. it's good having you. thanks for taking the time. >> thanks for having me. >> neil: this meeting with antony blinken and the saudi defense minister, there's been some criticism from the saudis. we understand where they stand on israel. but they haven't been condoning or helping israel in any way or certainly that is the per perception. are you worried? >> you know, yeah, to some extent. i'll say just given the history of israel and mecca and saudi arabia, they have been enemies in the past, but lately with the abraham accords and i hope this visit will expand the normalization agreement. they understand the enemy of the

enemy is my friend and that is iran. so they fear iran the most. they don't like hamas' tie and allegiance to iran for hezbollah. i see this -- by the way, this meeting was supposed to take place before hamas even invaded israel. hamas -- you asked me in a previous interview, why not? why did hamas attack israel? the 50th anniversary of the yom kippur fight and also i believe that hamas saw the normalization taking place between saudi arabia and israel and they want to do something to stop it. so i think right now our credibility is on the line. if we're not successful in israel, our credibility in the arab world will go down the toilet. and then iran and china will come in and fill the vacuum. >> neil: congressman, you're right to go back 50 years ago, the yom kippur war.

that led to the arab oil embargo and the long gas lines. we can all remember that, those of a certain age. the question now is it's a different environment, i get that, but you don't hear condemnation of hamas from anyone in the arab world. i wonder what that could tell you. >> well, i think certainly in jordan, they have a lot of palestinian in their population. egypt, tried to kick them out and throw them in the gaza strip. if you look at history there. nobody wants them. that's part of the problem. the humanitarian crisis. none of these arab nations want to receive the palestinians. that takes us to the rafah gate itself. i just heard the first american citizen just got released out of there. that's what we want to see. we also don't want a gate that is open to fund and equip and arm hamas. so the screening has to be very

carefully done. i have been given assurances it is. but we don't want to be funding this war or funding hamas and this war against israel. >> neil: not all americans are finding that pathway out so easy. we'll talk to a young couple dealing with that. to your point, it's being checked and rechecked. ahead of that, i want your take on aid that might be coming israel's way. you've been among those concern that its israel only aid, that eventually you said at the end of the day, we must see the ukraine threat as linked together with israel. what did you mean by that? >> well, all of these threats are linked together. look at who our adversaries are and their alliance quite frankly between putin, his invasion of ukraine and threat to europe, to chairman xi in china and his threat to taiwan and the pacific. the greatest we've seen since my dad's war, world war ii and then look at the ayatollah and iran

and his threat to israel. they're all enemies of the united states and the west. they're all tied together. they're all linked together. i think this package -- we're going to start with israel. that's appropriate given the threat to israel and the urgency. but all of these threats are tied together. the last one, neil, is the last line of defense. that's our southwest border. so we have to tackle all of these issues i think to really deal with the threats that we face as a nation. >> martha: chairman, and i'll be dealing with this with other guests throughout this show as i have earlier on fox business, this notion that iran's provocative attacks, even through rogue groups is such 28 attacks in a little more than two weeks. our response has been to go after those entities that are acting on iran's behalf. but not on iran itself. do you think that is a mistake?

should we target iran if we have unequivocal proof that iran is behind these attacks on u.s. soldiers? >> i don't want to -- i don't think we want to see escalation. that would require an authorization of use of military force and would come out of the house of foreign affairs committee. we don't want to see escalation with hezbollah or iran. that's why the deterrence is so importance. these carrier strike groups in the eastern mediterranean and the persian gulf provide that deterrence against hezbollah and iran. theadministration is slow in responding to the attacks -- >> neil: hang on to that point. the president is speaking right now in i believe northfield, minnesota. i believe he's addressing the real situation. >> thepresident of egypt and others to make sure we can open this access for people to get out. i want to thank our partners in

the region, particularly qatar that have worked so closely to facilitate the departure of these citizens. at the same time, we're continuing working to significantly step up the flow of critical humanitarian assistance in the gaza. the number of trucks entering gaza continues to increase significantly, but we still have a long way to go. the united states will continue to drive humanitarian support for innocent people in gaza. israel has a right to defend its citizens from terror and needs to do so in a manner consistent with international law. prioritizes protection of citizens. we've all seen the devastating images from gaza. palestinian children crying. parents writing their children's

names on hands and legs to be identified. it's okay. kids are allowed to do that with me. don't worry about it. i don't blame him. him or her? i don't blame her. [laughter] look, the loss of any innocent live is a tragedy. we continue to grieve for the israeli children, the mothers and those slaughtered by the hamas terrorists. we hold in our hearts those like small children and elderly grand parents including american citizens being held hostage. many -- my administration is working around the clock to get the hostages released. we won't give up. [applause] and i am optimistic, but then i'm an optimist.

folks, now i want to thank brad for that introduction. brad said he wasn't sure what a good speaker was. he can speak better than i can farm. >> neil: the president is talking about this opening of the rafah crossing today from gaza. it's an entry point and exit point that egypt orchestrated to allow those that want to get out to get out. not everybody. there's a limit that how many can come out, rejoined by chairman mccaul that was patient enough to go through that. chairman, the president makes clear that this is a good first step. of course egypt is providing that opportunity separately france and the netherlands are drawing up plans to get aid presumably through that same entry point in the gaza. what do you make of how it's going thus far? because part of checking who gets out is making sure that hamas fighters are not among them. >> yeah, i think that's absolutely correct. i know -- this has been a great diplomatic effort with qatar, uae, saudis, egypt.

the last thing that egypt wants to do is let hamas come in their country. if you go back in time, it was the muslim brotherhood that lit up al-quaida and their prisons. so it's in their best interest not to allow that to occur. i know they're vetting people coming out of there. if you look at the battle plan taking place in gaza, if you look at the middle of gaza, you can see the israeli idf, the military going across to basically construct a blockade, if you will, that will then open up a humanitarian zone, cutting hamas out of south gaza and trapping them in northern gaza where they intend to deal with that threat and try to rescue hostages. >> neil: chairman, this notion of responding to iran by attacking iran or points in iran and not some desert hut or

something in the middle of nowhere because you think you're taking out those acting on iran's behalf. what do you think of that? >> they have proxies, right? they operate through their proxies. they don't typically engage in this on their own. the irgc does for sure. they really rely on their proxies which are like the tentacles of iran. like hezbollah, hamas, the malitia groups in iraq and see i can't, the houthi rebels. we've been looking at updating our plans since 2001. we need to look at the terror proxies coming from iran. to step it up to bomb iran right now would really be a big escalation that i'm not sure it would -- it would intensify things, not cool things down. >> neil: you touched on your hope thatyou get a security package that looks after the needs of israel and ukraine. your new speaker, mike johnson is not a fan of that. he wants to limit it to israel

for the time being. you seem optimistic down the road that both countries needs will be addressed. you want them addressed now. he says israel first, down the road ukraine. that looks like an impasse. ed. >> well, the talk of the day is israel. i think it's important we show our support for israel. what we do want to see is we can'tabandon our allies in europe. we can't withdraw out of ukraine like we did in afghanistan. look what happened there. putin said in one week he would take over ukraine. then what kind of world are we looking at where our adversaries are emboldens like putin, claim xi and the ayatollah. the security has it rights. this is something back home that my ask its talk about, the aid package. if we can't deal with the political asylum issue, the real magnet here, we're failing to address the problem.

>> neil: what is to stop -- i get their intentions. president zelensky could warned israel, we were front and center too, with america. you better be careful. because americans might lose patience andthe wear and tear of the war with you too. >> i've been critical of the way the administration has conducted the war and managed it. they've been slow to get with weapons in. we need oversight. we need a path for victory. that's what my members want to hear, a path for victory. a majority would support our ally theres the region, this is a global interlinked threat against the united states and the west. so i think the speaker has come out, messaging-wise saying he does support the effort in ukraine. but we're going to have to get something in return for that. i think this is our best opportunity to get something on the border that could be a real

game changer as opposed to seven million people that have come in to this country and then given noticed to appear and released in society. >> neil: seems less attention to ukraine. more attention to the border, more attention to israel, less so to ukraine for the moment. am i right? >> that will occur soon. you'll see an aid package come outs of the senate that will have all four threats attached and linked together. so i don't want our friends in ukraine to think we're abandoning them. we're supporting ukraine this week. next week will be a ukraine bill and indopacific bill to protect taiwan and our friends in the asian pacific from the threats coming out of communist china. >> neil: chairman mccaul, good catching up with thanks. >> thanks. >> neil: the federal reserve

went ahead and did nothing on interest rates, coming then at a 22-year high. the banking lending rate at 5.25%. it's what jerome powell said that this might be it for a while. the data they're looking at right now seems to be supportive of keeping things steady as they are. by the way, the bank oe europea have paused on rates. back to israel and these attacks on u.s. soldiers. they seem to be happening one a day. you heard what chairman mccaul says. joe lieberman was a little more forceful yesterday and said if we miss the opportunity to go after iran directly, we're missing an opportunity for humanity after this. i hope you all like potatoes... these are fresh from my garden. what? is your...

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directly or indirectly funding. shouldn't these attacks in response be focused on iran? >> they absolutely should be focused on iran. look, iran is -- >> neil: they're not right now. should we target iran, the country? >> yeah. yeah. because iran is behind all of this. >> neil: all right. you just heard from chairman mccaul in the house saying that that would be a step up and bring us closer to something we might not want to be close to. kirk lippold was the u.s.s. yemen commander. his ship being attacked was the precursor to many of these terrorist attacks. what do you say of joe lieberman going after iran directly and chairman mccaul say not so fast? your thoughts.

>> neil, in some ways, both are right. senator lieberman is correct. at some point we have to address iran. we've been dealing with them, killing americans for 40 years now going all the way back to the beirut barrack bombing and the embassy bombings in 1983 up until today where they're using their proxy groups to do it and all we're engaged in is responses. by the same token, we don't have the forces in place in theater that we can go after iran effectively and hold them accountable in a manner that wouldn't escalate to a point that we would put our national security interests and israel in jeopardy. >> neil: commander, don't the iranians know that and sense that, realize that and say, all right, go ahead and keep bombing some groups in tents in the middle of the syrian desert and fine, we'll keep doing this. we've done it 28 times in the last two weeks and we'll keep doing it. >> i think you're right, neil. they'll keep doing it. however, what we need to do is

make sure that when we have -- when our troops take a hit, when they shoot at us, the response can no longer be proportion natural. we need to make them pay a dear price by taking out the communications nodes, the ammunition dumps, the actual missile batteries firing at our troops and ships and make sure that those proxy groups pay a price. will that be an escalation. >> martha: ? to a degree, yes. but it can't go unanswered with tit for tat responses that is demonstrating weakness that is spurring iran to conduct more attacks through their proxies. >> neil: i apologize. i was liking at a news flash that just came in. we're learning that the houthis launched a large batch of drones on several targets in israel. you know what it's like to deal with terrorists from yemen. the saudis do. they've been knocking down a number of houthi rebel missiles

that have been either aimed at israel or directly at saudi arabia itself. so they have no love lost for the houthi rebels or those that back them, namely iran. so where do you see this going? >> we're on the precipice that if we don't contain this in a manner that iran knows that further escalation, starting the planning that is necessary and i'm sure the jointat if we need strike in to iran to take away the facilities giving them the command and control. let's shut off any cross hormuz strait stuff going in, feeding in to the houthi rebels. make sure hamas can't get more. let's stop the flow of forces supporting hezbollah in lebanon and syria. those are the kind of things that we have the forces in place today to interdict and stop them. >> neil: forget about this spreading in the region. we talked about this many times

over the years. you dealt with the u.s.s. cole explosion. now you have the fbi and jake sullivan, the terror chief, saying a hamas attack is inspire ago new level of terror threats against the united states. it's worldwide now and a deliberate strategy now. one we're watching and watching out for. >> neil, i think what you're seeing, there's a global dynamic at play right now. clearly you have russia that is in ukraine and we're working with our european allies to contain that threat and make sure that putin is punished for what he did there. we're seeing china threaten taiwan and they have already militarized the south china sea with no penalty from the world around threatening the world by doing that. look at iran. they're exercises numerous proxy groups that they have armed over the years that allow them to be

able to project power and destabilize the region to the benefit of both russia and china. russia needs iran. iran doesn't need russia. china needs iran. iran doesn't need china. at the end of the day, iran is the center of gravity. we better start taking a hard look at what we have to do starting with noncon net tick sanctions and perhaps moving in and telling iran no more, it stops now, it stops here. >> neil: commander, very good seeing you. thank you. >> thank you, neil. >> neil: kirk lippold, the former head of the u.s.s. cole. that's where the terror wave got started a full year prior to 9-11. morn coming up including safe passage way out of gaza. not for everyone and for every major player to get out, including a number of americans after this.

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rafah crossing in egypt where the gates opened today. hundreds of foreign passport holders made their escape in to egypt. ambulances came up to take out 86 wounded people, but we understand that some of the people were in such bad shape that they didn't make it out of the gaza strip. not many americans made it out today. we understand five aid workers made it out and a group and americans piled to the southern end and hoping to get out. the gates are expected to open today. they have nothing to do other than be hopeful that they'll make their escape tomorrow. following the massive strike at the refugee camp that left a giant crater. the crater was caused by ham tunnels. hamas claimed the hostages were killed in the air strike. israel dismisses that more than propaganda. meantime, look at one of the iron dome batteries, the iron dom being so integral in the

defense of the rocket fire out of the gaza strip. a general that manages them cease the soldiers can focus on their job and take comfort that there's something that will protect families at home. >> the number of people hurt by rockets is very low. it's helping the soldiers to know that their families are as much as they could be safe during the war. >> israel is paying a price for the combat in the gaza strip. at least 16 soldiers have been killed. neil? >> neil: thanks, mike. be safe. mike tobin in the middle of that in southern israel has he has been from the very beginning. meantime, this aid that would be necessarily coming to israel, we told you about a cbo that isn't so short adds up to being deficit neutral, that's a separate issue. i raised it with ron desantis who is in favor of separating israel when it comes to aid for

israel versus aid for ukraine. if it sounds familiar, it should. take a look. >> others in your party, particularly in the house, have said go ahead and set aside funds for israel, hold off on ukraine. where are you on this? >> yeah, i don't think that there should be a big omnibus package. i think the house is right on this. i think what they're doing to provide robust support for israel while also paying for it is the way to go. >> neil: all right. that was from ron desantis. with us now, senator james rich from idaho. senator, great to see you. what do you think of this now that we have at least this move afoot to separate monies for ukraine, for moneys from israel, that that's the way to go. lo and behold, the cbo looks at the house package and says it's going to add to the deficit. it is going to cut revenue. does that make you change your

mind? >> and the question is? >> neil: will it? in other words, more expensive than thought, will it make you think twice about supporting it? >> you know, who knows. the cbo is notoriously inaccurate. if it cuts your way, you're for it. if it cuts the other way, you argue about it. that's a different lane than i operate in. i operate in the lane like your prior guest mike mccaul. he did a great job in the interview, did a great job with the issues. when it comes to the funding, look, i want to see it paid for. we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. a better guest is somebody that operates in the financial lane. i can talk about the substantive issues as you did with mccaul. >> neil: if it dips in and adds to the deficit, it's well worth it. so your colleagues have been

echoing that. if that's what it means, that's what it means. we can deal with that. israel is important right now. >> you're dealing with national security issues. when you deal with national security issues, you have to balance what we're spending versus what we're borrowing clearly, clearly important issues. we'll do that. we do that all the time. when they call, you only get to vote yes or no we'll do that when we get to that. i can tell you, that's a ways down the road. >> neil: indeed. this meeting that secretary of state blinken had with saudi defense minister comes at a time where many are very concerned about whether the saudis are fully supporting us and our efforts right now to help israel. obviously they can't outright say that. i understand the dynamics. but i would assume the saudis have greater concerns about iran than even we too. i dare say the israelis do. what do you think we should do to force that issue with the

saudis? >> yeah, really good question, neil. i'm meeting with the saudi foreign minister a little later today. i met with mbs earlier this year in rhiad. that was a very important question that we asked. the saudis want to move forward with that. i have heard nothing that indicates that they changed their mind. they want normalization indeed. mike mccaul was accurate said this whole thing is the result of the fact that the saudis were moving close to normalization with israel. the iranians couldn't let that happen. they're more isolated when that happens. i believe it will happen. i believe the saudis want to do that. obviously they have their own internal political issues that they have to deal with. we need to give them the space to do that. they have political issues with their brethren in the region. we need to give them space to do

that. some of the brethren have joined with the abraham accords, which was a pivotal moment in the middle east. going to be looked at historically as such. when the saudis get on board, it's going to be more so. it important for them to proceed. >> neil: senator, i'm wondering if you agree with some in your party that say the overtures that we make to the saudis and the others, it sort of bumping in to the reality of so many arab leaders refusing to meet with the president when he was in the neighborhood. i'm just wondering if we're trying to too hard. maybe we should be looking like we should be currying favor or get on their good side when that was a quite a slap in the face for the u.s. president to be told no, we don't want to meet with you. >> yeah, you know, i don't really know what they were thinking in that regard. i can tell you this, neil, we

send people to the middle east almost every weekend. we opened with open arms. they're glad to meet with us. they're happy to meet with us. they encourage us to come. so i don't see any change in that regard. they want to work with us. that i want normalization. they want the thing to calm down. iran is the problem here. everybody knows iran is the problem here. you'd ask mccaul a question about the attacks on these proxy groups. i'm critical of the administration. they need to go after the proxy groups. i don't open a front with iran. nobody does. on the other hand, if these proxy groups are stupid enough to carry the water for iran, they need to pay the price. this little slap on the wrist that the administration did of this attack on an ammunition dump after the 25 or some attacks that these proxy groups have had on u.s. interests, on u.s. troops is a mistake.

they need to go after those with a lot more vigor than what they have and those proxy groups need to pay the price for attacking americans. the iranians will learn their lesson from this and hopefully the proxy groups will learn their lesson that they're just being played as doops by the iranians. >> neil: maybe the proxies will. i don't know if iran will. what is to stop them and say we'll keep it going, 28 attacks in two weeks? make it a 29th and 30th because they're not going to do anything to us. >> yeah, what will keep that going is two things. number 1 is a direct attack on those proxy groups. we know where they are. we can deliver a stinging blow. >> neil: when we launch counter attacks? are we hitting a tent in a village? >> they have a goat and a tent

and something else. i don't know. i think that's counter productive. i think they need to do it and do it in a punishing matter. at the same time, we need to ratchet up much more sternly the things that we have against iran. the sanctions that we have against iran. particularly in their sales of oil to the chinese. we can stop that. we need to stop that. it will help. maybe eliminate the ability of them to fund these proxy groups. >> neil: senator, you've been mentioning the provocative behavior certainly of hamas and some of these others in the past. yet they're not repudiated by in many the arab world. you know the region yourself. you're going to see headlines blairing support for israel. but the condemnation is there behind the scenes. do you think the arab world

should speak out more on hamas and speak out more on iranian funding for groups like hamas and hezbollah and on and on? >> that is a great question. the arab leaders talk to us differently privately than they do publicly when they speak about this. the reason is very simple. they have political problems at home. they worry about violence in the streets. so their language is much more muted when they talk about this. i can tell you, actions are better than words. you don't see any of them opening their doors right now to the palestinians saying come on here. look at egypt. egypt as recently as this week said we're going to stop in every way possible these palestinians from coming to egypt. they don't want them. they will privately tell you that they have absolutely no use for hamas. the sooner that hamas is gone, the better they'd like it just

as we will. >> neil: well put. thanks, senator. >> thank you. >> neil: senator risch on all of that. you probably heard about this cornell university students writing threatening comments about jewish students. in fact, he wanted to slit their throats. we're finding out more about him. alexis mcadams has more on that. alexis? >> hai, neil, a full report coming up. we are at cornell where the junior student reported threat saying he was going to attack and kill jewish students. one of the threats was aimed here at this kosher dining hall. i'll have those details coming up next. ♪ hit it ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a thing go right ♪ ♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪ ♪ one, two, get loose now ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a... ♪ stay two nights and get 5k bonus points. book direct at bestwestern.com. ♪

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>> neil: all right. you can type, but you can't hide. a cornell student is finding that out the hard way as some incredibly over the top comments he mid about jews in general. they tracked him town. alexis mcadams has more. >> hi, neil. patrick dai said he was going to shoot up the kosher dining hall. that's here over my shoulder.

this comes as the 21-year-old was just a short time in the federal courthouse, neil here in new york wearing an orange jump suit and handcuffed. his parents in the front row. he was read a long list of federal charges he faces looking at five years behind bars after police say he posted a slew of anti-semitic threats. students say they still don't feel safe. >> there was a person and they found him. i would have been doubting the whole time that they would find the guy. >> dai facing several face charges after investigators say he posted those online threats writing he was going to slit the throats of jewish students on campus as well as other horrific messages. according to this criminal complaint, the fbi and the new york state police used his i.p. address to track him down. they did it quickly. finding a dozen hatedful posts linked to his own computer. the posts were found over the weekend and since then cornell has been on high alert adding

police to the campus and the center of jewish living. students say this is an example of a growing problem. we know dai is still in custody at the local jail. the sheriff says he's under close watch. >> he's not in general housing. he's in a medical wing. they are single cells. and currently he's under constant observation meaning he's being watched 24 hours a day by a member of this office. >> and from federal court, dai will go back to that local jail there not far from where we are right now, neil. that's where they'll keep him under surveillance and be in court later this month. with him behind bars around not here on campus, people are concerned for their safety as well as their parents paying big money to send them to this school. >> neil: yeah. alexis, you've been covering a lot of the protests and a good many many support of the

palestinians. many don't hide their support over hamas. this is rampant. this is an extreme case as someone talks about slitting people's throats. that's another example. i get that. but this undercurrent and we're seeing it supported at a number of these institutions has surprised a lot of folks, hasn't it? >> yeah. i think a lot of the jewish students that chose these universities like one of the students said he chose cornell because it's a big jewish population on campus. he didn't think there wouldn't be any anti-semitic activities going on. the problem is the schools didn't speak up fast enough. one cornell professor said the attacks were exhilarating. they feel if the university came out strong, there wouldn't be these threats. >> neil: when you talk to students in general, when you

target a specific group, other students have to feel it as well saying this is getting too heated, too crazy. regardless of their political positions, they say we have to bring this down a notch. maybe a lot of notches. >> yeah, a lot of notches, i think. that's what people are saying here. as you said, it's not just the jewish students. we talked to people apartment these universities from all different backgrounds and faiths and from all over the country that say they're disappointed in the rhetoric, a lot of people said they didn't realize there was as much hate against the jewish community until recently with these attacks that started in october. >> neil: thanks, alexis. alexis mcadams following that. i want to pursue this more with my next guest. lieutenant colonel james. i always enjoy having you own. i want to pick your fine brain

on these type of back and forths that some of our most robust institutions where hatred is real, bias and prejudice is real, anti-semitism is real. does it concern you you're seeing it recall in accessory time? this is an extreme example. it's not hidden. >> what really concerns me is obviously we always have had some of this in our country. but these -- at the end of the day, things that we think are desperate are fundamentally linked. so whether it's anti-semitism on university campuses or radical gender ideology that says it's okay to put your children -- c castrate chemically.

it's about deconstructing normal society in the united states. we use this issues of equity to say let's be fair to everybody. what they really have is those are the forerunners of a much more radical agenda that we see being operationalized. people ought to be asking, why are black lives matter out calling for the murder of jews? why are queers for palestine saying we should be killing jews? i think this is a bigger -- there's a bigger than a breadbasket problem here than more people lating israel today. there's a weaponized political agenda at the base of this and it's fun mental to the struggle for civil society in american. >> neil: nothing civil about it. i'm going to another big issue that developed in the break. china is apparently agreed to

hold nuclear arms control talks with the united states next week. this would be the first since the obama administration. this is coming in the "wall street journal." that's a big development and comes at a time where we're making this -- this might be a step. what do you make of it? >> i think it's fascinating. i'd love to know the back story. there's so many different ways you can unravel this. first of all, we know that china is committed to nuclear parody with the united states and russia. so what are we going to negotiate over? china not achieving nuclear parody with the united states and russia? i don't think they're up for that. there's an argument well maybe china, which has never wanted to share strategic nuclear information with anybody might do this now. but one of the reasons why they might want to do this is so the americans very clearly understand that they actually are moving to nuclear parody with the united states. so their nuclear deterrent against us is much more

powerful. showing it a part of that. the chinese are famous for having talks and doing nothing. oh, i'm giving you something. like we go up, we're going to do a deal and no money appears so if the chinese offer talks doesn't mean they'll deliver anything. why did they do this? are they giving this up? did biden get bribed? raises more questions than answers that oh, my god, we're heading to a more peaceful world. that's the last thing that is happening. >> neil: seems like we're the ones that want the talks. the president, xi jinping will be in fran in a couple weeks. it's us pushing it. i don't know what to make of that. >> we're asking for fairy dust. yeah, sure, hear it is. are we going to have strategic nuclear talks with the russians? no. when there's three equal powers in the world, what is the value of the bilateral nuclear tax?

it's a nothing burger with nothing fries. >> neil: you think china and russia are comparing notes on this? it's difficult to tell. at the end of the day, we have to remember that china and russia for all the cumbaya stuff are nuclear competitors. the last thing that russia really has to balance out with china because they have given them energy, they have shared technology, they have given them access to -- done everything for the chinese to get their support. the last balancing card china has is a ton of nuclear -- that putin has with the chinese is a massive ton of nuclear weapons. so how happy is he going to be to play that card and not have a massive nuclear independent deterrent in moscow? that's the last thing putin would ever give up. >> neil: we shall see. ♪ ♪